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Taking a break

Started by: Billinge Biker (2384) 

My time is now taken up as an admin and moderator on a Naval site...No. Rubbish ..No Idiots...No Bad Mouthing..No Spineless Comments...No Aggro..Idiots and N'eer do wells are not suffered...Barred..No return....Will look in now and again...Adiós Amigos..

Started: 13th Feb 2024 at 18:56

Posted by: Stardelta (11923)

Dont forget to shut the door on the way out

Replied: 13th Feb 2024 at 18:57

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15413)

Bye

Replied: 13th Feb 2024 at 19:01

Posted by: tomplum (12513) 

So another good poster has left because of the nasty un's.

Replied: 13th Feb 2024 at 19:11

Posted by: First Mate (2385)

No he has a site to run

Replied: 13th Feb 2024 at 19:19

Posted by: Stardelta (11923)

But he was ignoring all the nasty un`s Tom.......just like you do

Replied: 13th Feb 2024 at 19:54

Posted by: Stardelta (11923)

BTW......On the subject of nasty un`s Tom ........Do you think they will let him use that pic of Hitler doing a thumbs up as an avatar over on the naval site like he did here?

Replied: 13th Feb 2024 at 20:00

Posted by: First Mate (2385)

I suppose when you are an admin of a site you can do what you like without fear of impunity.

Replied: 13th Feb 2024 at 20:19

Posted by: ena malcup (4151) 

Replied: 13th Feb 2024 at 20:24

Posted by: Stardelta (11923)

Is true that BB found the golden rivet on his first night aboard Tom?

…,And is it true he kept going back every night afterwards to check it was still there?

Replied: 13th Feb 2024 at 20:32

Posted by: tomplum (12513) 

Ha Ha nice one Ena

Replied: 13th Feb 2024 at 20:52

Posted by: mollie m (7157) 

Mr Biker, if you're reading this, don't let others grind you down on here. I'm glad you've found a nice friendly forum you can relax with.

I've joined many forums over the last 18 years or so, and only two have been friendly with no malicious intent from anyone. I've also been a moderator, which is not an easy job because of the time it takes to read every thread and every post.

It's very sad that so much nonsense is tolerated here, and I'm sorry you're distancing yourself, but you'll nearly always find there's a clique that enjoys confrontation, and there's a saying "don't feed the trolls" because that's what they love. I learned that the hard way years ago and yes, sometimes I will voice my strong opinion if I think it's called for, as you may well have read.

Don't let them chase you off because they'll feel like they've won. I, for one, have been grateful for some of the advice you've given me.

Keep popping back, and take care.

Replied: 13th Feb 2024 at 23:31

Posted by: PeterP (11326)

Billinge Biker I hope you enjoy your new venture .Sometimes you have to go to new pastures with a different view on life. Bob back from time to timeOne of the 3 amigos has not posted since the start of January_ Lectriclegs must have got fed up with being beaten by you

Replied: 14th Feb 2024 at 07:19
Last edited by PeterP: 14th Feb 2024 at 07:48:31

Posted by: First Mate (2385)

Posted by: PeterP (11095)
Billinge Biker I hope you enjoy your new venture .Sometimes you have to go to new pastures with a different view on life. Bob back from time to timeOne of the 3 amigos has not posted since the start of January_ Lectriclegs must have got fed up with being beaten by you

Replied: 14th Feb 2024 at 07:19
Last edited by PeterP: 14th Feb 2024 at 07:48:31

Posted by: lectriclegs (5712)
"I just cannot understand anyone on this site NOT being able to agree with a SIMPLE FACT ,and that is the glaring size of the NHS waiting list we now have"

Here's my experience.
6/11/2023 telephone consultation with non specific symptoms consultant.
7/11/2023 full blood test (Linacre)
11/11/2023 CT scan RAEI anomaly found on lung.
13/11/2023 endoscopy Leigh.
17/11/2023 lung function test RAEI
18/11/2023 PET scan RAEI
19/11/2023 MRI scan RAEI
20/11/2023 Further endoscopy RAEI
21/11/2023 ECG RAEI.

I for one cannot agree with your "FACTS" GB.

( I know the above statement on my health will bring great glee to some on here)
Replied: 17th Nov 2023 at 14:23

https://www.wiganworld.co.uk/communicate/mb_message.php?opt=f1&msd=1573653&page=7&subject=%22Mafia-like%20culture%20in%20top%20NHS%20management%22

Peterp read this and re think your last post. Tom has said on many occasions that I'm Lectriclegs. I thank the good lord that I'm not. I wish Lectriclegs all the best

Replied: 14th Feb 2024 at 16:28

Posted by: tonker (27946) 

NHS? Here's my (latest) experience .....

November 2023, I'm in Spain. I fall 3 metres, down a stairwell, backwards.
I landed on my back with my head hitting a box of glass blocks.
Luckily, my wife was with me and she rang the ambulance.
I woke up to the ambulancemen pouring freezing cold water on my head. "you've got a gaping hole in the top of your head", says my wife.
Taken to hospital by ambulance, taken straight in, two nurses give me a wash-down. Doctor attends, inspects my head. "Hmmmmm", says he. Next, a neurosurgeon arrives. First doctor speaks to neurosurgeon, neurosurgeon asks them to send me to theatre. Off I go to theatre, stopping off to have a brain and neck scan. In theatre, I had my face and body covered up with just the top of my head showing. A few injections in my head numbed it while they spent a while scraping and pulling at part of my skull. Then they stitched my head up and wrapped an extremely tight bandage around my head (which, by then, had taken on a really funny shape!).
Not a pleasent experience. The 'report' from the hospital did say, "the patient tolerated the procedure". I was released from hospital with a big envelope containing the 'report' and results of the scan, plus details of the procedures undertaken along with a prescription for anti-biotics to stop any infection in the wound.
An English speaking doctor then told my wife we must attend my own doctor, immediately on arrival in England, and give them this envelope. Doctor and nurse accompanied us to our car and assisted me getting in.
First class treatment.
Booked a flight immediately and flew home later that day.
Day after, the pain kicked in! Back, neck, scull etc. Forehead turned black and swelled up, both eyes turned black, could hardly move.
Went to my 'health centre'. "Sorry, we have no appointments available for three weeks" (no-one waiting in reception?). I gave the receptionist the envelope. She took it to the 'practice manager'.
"Sorry, practice manager says this is written in a foreign language so there's nothing we can do, translation is your responsibility, we haven't the time". blah, blah, blah,.
(yet they have notices at reception written in Arabic etc., just to help the immigrants who are staying in the Ibis hotel on the East Lancs Road .....)
No appointment, so I go to a walk-in centre in St.Helens. It's packed, so I ask "how long is the wait", she tells me "well, the last patient waited over 4 hours". 'No chance' thinks me, I'm off home getting my head down. As I walked out, the receptionist says, "don't bother going to Whiston, they're wating 10 to 11 hours there, to be seen, they're all coming here"!
I went home. Next day, I'm worse. Wife rings 111. They tell her to take me to Leigh hospital, where they saw me after 20 minutes wait.
They took the time to read the papers from Spain. "Ah., yes, but we don't usually give these anti-biotics, we give these others, but they're just the same". So I take some. Within two hours, my head had swelled even more, both eyes swelled and more blacked, lips swelled too, pins and needles in my face and arms. Back to Leigh, wait an hour, then a triage tells me "you really should see a doctor. You need to go home and a doctor will ring you in an hour". (?????)
An hour later a doctor rings. "You need to go to Wigan hospital A&E. I will notify them you are coming, you won't need to wait".
Hey, lads, hey! Straight in, blood tests and examination tells them I'm allergic to the type of anti-biotic they've given me in Leigh and they've given me extremely high blood pressure. Take these, more pills, different types. Doctor tells me, "you MUST see your own GP about your blood pressure".
Had stitches removed in Leigh a week later.
Now, three months on, I managed to get an appointment at my local health centre. It was with a 'physiotherapy assessor'. His opinion was, "well, I've seen people a lot younger than you who are still having problems with neck and back injuries some 12 to 18 months later. Give it another three months or so then, if you are still having trouble with it, I'll refer you to our physiotherapy team".

NHS? Not fit to lace the boots of the Spanish health service!

I don't usually go on so much, but I've not been on WW for a while!

Replied: 14th Feb 2024 at 19:33

Posted by: First Mate (2385)

Clearly you should have stayed in Spain.

Replied: 14th Feb 2024 at 19:45

Posted by: tonker (27946) 

It's only a short visit, I'm going back on the 26th Feb..

Replied: 14th Feb 2024 at 19:48

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15413)

Sorry to hear about all that Tonker, but I had a similar experience in the 1960s when I tupped the corner of a wall and it weren't nice, but your accident sounds to have been a lot worse than mine was.

Replied: 14th Feb 2024 at 20:42

Posted by: PeterP (11326)

Tonker I hope you have a speedy recovery 1st Mate Why should I retract what I have posted If Lectriclegs is unwell and cannot post then s/he as my sympathy.Has to NHS waiting lists I personally waited from September 2019 till December 2023 for a operation.
Yvonne on the other hand was seen to by an on call doctor on the 5th Jan and admitted to hospital where she stayed for 12 days(Dehydration & an infection) came home on the 16th Jan.On call doctor back to see her on the20th Jan rushed back into the hospital on the 21st( high temp of 39 and heart rate of 134 suspected broken hand)X-rays to hand&chest Luckily hand was only badly bruised .Controlled everything allowed home late evening on the 22nd with a course of anti biotics slowly on the mend. Both legs and toe got pressure sores district nurse Mon Weds Fri and Podiatry once a week.Mattress on her bed changed from a foam one to an air flow mattress. Unfortunately there will be times in our lives when other priority's take over from being sat behind a key board and I hope Lectriclegs is soon posting again.

Replied: 15th Feb 2024 at 07:45

Posted by: Owd Codger (3109)

A insight by tonker of why many are emigrating as a result of things in our country not being what they use to be before the door was opened!

Replied: 15th Feb 2024 at 09:09

Posted by: peter israel (2126) 

sorry to hear that tonker but glad your on the mend.... but it's not the first time you have had a fall I'm presuming you were doing some DIY
A friend of mine in his late 50s in the last few months have all so had a bad fall and landed in hospital in thailand then he chopped his finger off and yesterday when i spoke to him he is in bed with a bad back... i will give you the same advice that i gave him!! your not getting younger and things take longer to heal

Replied: 15th Feb 2024 at 10:51

Posted by: First Mate (2385)

Peterp I wasn't asking you to retract your post, I was giving you an alternative reason as the why Lectriclegs may not be posting.

Replied: 15th Feb 2024 at 11:39

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15413)

I just don't give a shit

Replied: 15th Feb 2024 at 12:26

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15413)

I don't give a damn

Replied: 15th Feb 2024 at 12:27

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15413)

Or a monkeys yoo know what

Replied: 15th Feb 2024 at 12:27

Posted by: tonker (27946) 

"Frankly, Dear, ........... "?

Replied: 15th Feb 2024 at 12:29

Posted by: First Mate (2385)

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (14998)

I just don't give a shit

Replied: 15th Feb 2024 at 12:26

Holding on to all that bodily waste cant be good for body or mind Maybe you are full of it. Perhaps you should see a doctor.

Replied: 15th Feb 2024 at 13:13

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15413)

Replied: 15th Feb 2024 at 13:52

Posted by: Stardelta (11923)

“A insight by tonker of why many are emigrating as a result of things in our country not being what they use to be before the door was opened!“

Here is one for you Todge…..

If people took some personal responsibility for the safety and well being, thought about their actions and the potential risks involved and generally conducted their affairs in a manner that did not put themselves (or others) at risk of injury……they wouldn’t need the services of the NHS, or the foreign equivalent.

What do you say?

Replied: 15th Feb 2024 at 17:14

Posted by: mollie m (7157) 

To be honest, I'm shocked by the lack of care by the NHS because my experiences have been totally different.

It's too long-winded for me to tell you of the first time I dialled 999 for myself so, to keep it short, nine years ago I missed the last two stairs at home and landed on the tile floor in my hallway, busted my head open, broke a little finger and dislocated a thumb. I kept passing out and struggled to reach the phone, but I managed eventually and, between passing out and coming to, I relayed the information they needed. Paramedics were at my house well within 10 minutes where they bandaged my head as it was bleeding, straight into A&E and was treated, presumably whilst I'd passed out again. As a result my forehead was damaged quite badly and I had to have nine stitches to my right eyebrow, although I keep it all covered with a fringe, and my right eye got a bit crumpled. I was offered Maxfax (maxillofacial) surgery to correct the disfigurement, but I refused.

More recently, on 21 December, I needed an ambulance again for something else. I tried 111 first, but got an answering machine asking me to press different buttons so I sacked that and dialled 999. Again, an ambulance arrived within minutes, was triaged immediately in A&E, then into a side part for a few hours, and then into the Medical Assessment Unit (another part of A&E) where I was on oxygen for most of my stay, and spent my Christmas Day there, coming out on Boxing Day.

So, maybe I've just been lucky, but I was treated extremely well at all times and monitored constantly.

As to getting a doctor's appointment - you've more chance of getting an audience with the King.

Oh, but the food was wonderful whilst I was there.

Replied: 17th Feb 2024 at 00:01

Posted by: ena malcup (4151) 

I think that there has been a lot of variability.

I spent the second half of my career in the NHS. (I had done something completely different for the first half.)

When I started, of course, it was closer to the NHS's inception than to present date. I think the service was at its best in the early 1980's. The 1982 reorganisation, I believe was a double edged sword: delivering some short term improvement, but at the expense of severe long term damage. When the Area Health authorities were abolished, many of their employees sought roles with either district or regional authorities and brought with them politicisation hitherto not present at these levels.

By 1984, I had become a whistleblower. Did no good. The miscreants committed suicide. Nobody ever brought to account. (Something I have seen again in recent times) NHS now has Fraud and Corruption agency. It is still finding the same sort of stuff going on.

In my experience, the NHS is more corrupt than any other employer I ever had.

Found myself the victim of managers bent upon vengeance, but it was not I that they were harming, but the patients, who's interests they were supposed to represent!

So, it did not take long for another employer to persuade me to walk away from the moras, and take up employment with them.

This is not the place to go into great detail, but I will provide one example.

A children's hospital in which they were being sexually abused. Parents got nowhere with their complaints. Eventually, police set up hidden video surveillance. Eventually, arrested the Unit General Manager: the very person to whom the parents had been delivering their complaints.

He received a custodial sentence.

But:

Reported in Health Service Journal at the time: The management team said that his job was held open for him to return to on completion of said sentence!

I could hardly believe my own eyes!

Replied: 17th Feb 2024 at 00:46
Last edited by ena malcup: 17th Feb 2024 at 02:41:07

 

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